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Infections, Digestive Issues, Brain Fog and What To Do Next – Podcast #61

Infections, Digestive Issues, Brain Fog and What To Do Next – Podcast #61


Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Hey, Evan! What’s going on, man? Evan Brand: Hey, not much. I’m excited I got to talk with you this
week. I was curious if we were gonna get together
and do this thing. I was like, “Oh, man! I need my–my weekly dose of inspiration.” So glad we’re getting to do this. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Vice-versa. I always enjoy talking to you as well. What did you have for breakfast? Evan Brand: I woke up and my wife said, “Hey,
I made some sausage for you.” So it was just some of the Applegate, no hormones,
no antibiotics, sausage links. Had about 5 of those puppies and just some
lemon water and that’s it so far and I’m still feeling good and that was a couple hours
ago. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Nice. Yeah, myself, I did a great little green drink. So I took some celery and some parsley. Took a whole lemon, one carrot, some kale,
cucumber and about 3 or 4 ginger cloves and I had them all juiced up, but you know, nice
coffee-mug size. I drink that. Had some coffee, butter, and MCT oil all blended
up and then I’m also sipping on a whey protein shake. So I got a lot of micronutrients in my green
drink. I got some good fats in my butter and MCT
coffee, and then I got some extra protein and amino acids in my grass-fed whey protein. Evan Brand: That shake sounds pretty potent. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Oh, it was very spicy
with the ginger. I love ginger. I mean, ginger is phenomenal. I have it part of my programs with any gut
killing program because ginger is very anti-inflammatory. It’s a prokinetic so people that have delayed
gastric emptying or digestive issues, and also keeps the lymphatic system moving. It’s an anticoagulant so people get inflamed–either
things move in the body much slower from a lymphatic and detox perspective so keeping
the ginger in there really keeps things moving. Evan Brand: Ah, that makes sense. Yeah, I’ve had some ginger kombuchas– Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Love those. Evan Brand: Like some home-made. I’ve had some of the ones that are in the
bottles but I’ve had a couple like home-made ones at some health fairs and it’s enough
to make you squint your eyes after you drink it. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, I was quite
hot after I drink it. Evan Brand: Yeah. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: So that’s what I
had. I’m actually heading to Kansas City this
weekend. What are you up to? Evan Brand: I don’t know yet. I know I’m gonna be here in town. My buddy, Matt, was in town last weekend from
Charlotte, so I think I’m just gonna do a rest and relaxation, engage my parasympathetic
mode all weekend. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Very cool, very cool. We talked again pre-show–we wanna talk about
gut bugs a little bit. I’ve done a lot of shows and posts on parasites
and gut bugs. Again, we’ll try to look at it from a different
perspective, so anyone that’s listened to our old stuff it won’t be repetitive. And again we wanna walk–we wanna have people
walk away with some, you know, take home application, but I see a lot of people with gut bugs and
gut infections and they don’t even have any digestive symptoms at all. They have no diarrhea, no bloating, no gas,
no constipation, no reflux, none of that stuff. But on the test we find gut infection. Sometimes even multiple gut infections. Evan Brand: So where do these things come
from? I mean, when I–I first hear that I think
of people traveling to a tropical place but I know that’s not necessary to get a gut
bug. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, so I’ll give
you for instance. I had a patient–we can go back in time to
let’s say the mid-2000s when this person was in Brazil and they noticed they got sick
and things were–weren’t quite the same. Had gone to multiple different GI docs, after
the fact and nothing came back. Now this person’s main symptom and they
some digestive symptoms but their number one symptom was fatigue. Fatigue. So we ran some tests. We did some of our functional, more specialty
labs, and this is kinda where it gets hairy because I have a lot of people that come in
that have digestive issues and they say, hey I’ve gotten my conventional blood work done
or my conventional stool test at my local hospital done and I did not come back with
an infection. Let’s not go this route. And I say, “Huh.” I’ve done this thousands of times. I’ve had this conversation like it’s Groundhog’s
Day, right? And I’ve seen people come back with infections
where they’ve already been tested by their conventional labs and hospitals and they–they
come back negative there but they come back positive on mine. So moral of the story, this guy that had the
chronic fatigue came back with a couple different infections and we were able to catch it on
the test. We just started to treat the infection, his
fatigue started getting better. Now if we just relied on the conventional
setting, we’d never would have even got the info to know that his person had a major
infection and conventional medicine doesn’t look at these infections of even existing
in a chronic state. Infections are acute. You have diarrhea. You have, you know, all of the traveler’s
diarrhea, you know, things like that, maybe even throwing up and once that’s gone, you’re–that’s
it. You’re over the infection. That’s kind of the mindset. Evan Brand: Yeah and the problem is, even
if the conventional model were able to identify it, they’re not gonna be able to properly
address it with some of the things we–that we may talk about today as the treatment options
for lack of a better term. Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Yeah, so there’s
an antibiotic out there called metronidazole or Flagyl and we run a specific genetic stool
test and we find a lot of people that come back with infections are also resistant to
that antibiotic. I see it all the time. So you’re typical doctor is just gonna prescribe
Flagyl and say “Here you go. Infection be gone.” But I see a lot of my stool tests that this
comes back resistant. Now before I even was doing genetic testing
for antibiotic sensitivity, I already intuitively noticed that a lot of people were being treated
with Flagyl and–and metronidazole and tinidazole and other antibiotics like this and they weren’t
working. Like meaning that person would feel a little
bit better for a bit of time and then the symptoms would come back so I knew intuitively
something wasn’t right and then now with some of this newer technology we can see that
there’s actually antibiotic resistance. So that kinda makes sense, my intuition was
kinda proven right and that’s why a combination of herbs specific to what the infection may
be is gonna be the optimal way to–to knock out the gut bug. Evan Brand: Yup, so let’s dig a little deeper. Where do these things come from? You mentioned the Brazil case. That’s definitely interesting, but say somebody
that’s not traveling internationally? Where are they gonna pick these things up
or how are they gonna get into the system and allow to become problematic? Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Great question. So a lot of these infections are just opportunistic,
right? There needs to be some level of immune stress,
adrenal stress, stress in that person’s life for these infections to kind of take
foothold. That’s kind of one scenario. Scenario number two is you just get exposed
to a lot of that parasite or a lot of that infection and–and the–the bolus, the amount
on that infection that’s there is just overwhelming to the system to begin with. So it’s typically either a small amount
where the body is just not able to handle it because of chronic stress. A large amount that really overwhelms the
body and typically one or two tend to be kind of, you know, in effect. And then most of the time people go to their
conventional doctor and doesn’t come up for the–all the–the many reasons that
we talked about. So reason number one, chronic stress. Their immune system is somewhat compromised
to begin with and then number two, there just a very large amount of the infection there
and then what tends to happen is the infection starts to compromise the body’s ability
to breakdown food. So then we have stress in the gut. The first thing that happens when our sympathetic
nervous system starts activating is the inability to secrete hydrochloric acid. Hydrochloric acid is needed for protein digestion. HCl for short is what activates our proteolytic,
right? Remember medicine uses big words to make you
confused. Proteo, protein. Lytic, cutting or break down. So activates your proteolytic or protein breaking
down enzymes called pepsin in the stomach. The nice low pH of all of that acidic chyme. Chyme is just mixed up food. Take the food, put it in the blender, that’s
chyme. When that food comes out that stomach into
the small intestine, that nice low pH does two things. It causes a stimulation of secretion of cholecystokinin
which causes the gallbladder to contract and produce bile salts or stimulate the release
of bile salts and that CCK also causes the pancreas to produce a whole bunch of lipase
which breaks down fat, right? That LIP, right? Lipid, that’s the–the fat abbreviation
and then it also stimulates the pancreas to produce some proteolytic enzymes–trypsin,
chymotrypsin, etc. So we have this whole digestive domino rally
effect here and when the gut becomes inflamed, when there’s stress in the gut, one of the
first thing that gets compromised is hydrochloric acid secretion and once HCl secretion gets
compromised, enzyme secretion gets compromised, bile salt secretion gets compromised and then
foods tend to sit and rot and ferment and putrefy and rancidify creating more stress. So this–it’s this downwards spiral cycle
and then over time the gut lining becomes thinner and thinner, leaky gut starts occurring,
more and more food allergy start occurring, and then the patient symptoms get worse and
worse and worse overtime. Evan Brand: Mmkay. So you–so you kinda answered that in a long
winded way which is good. So basically– Dr. Justin Marchegiani: Sorry about t

3 Replies to “Infections, Digestive Issues, Brain Fog and What To Do Next – Podcast #61”

  • I had chronic fatigue, adrenal fatigue, and really bad brain fog for years. After taking turpentine for a week my brain fog cleared up and i have so much more energy now. Now i wonder if the turpentine killed some kind of stomach bug that was causing all my symptoms. I'm not 100% yet but i feel so much better.

  • Hey I love your videos! I live in canada and I am stuck with a really bad family doctor. I want to get some tests done but don't know what to ask him. What medical tests do you guys recommend?

  • Do you guys think dientamoeba fragilis is actually a real issue? Many people have this bug without issues. It seems very hard to get rid of without hardcore antibiotic regimens

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